Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary
Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary
Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary is the longest-running independent healthcare podcast. 17 years of unfiltered truth about American healthcare. Matthew survived brain cancer at 21, built the young adult cancer movement from nothing, and now channels patient rage into political power. Each episode features battle-scarred survivors, exhausted caregivers, and the rare insider brave enough to name what's killing us. Real stories from real people who refuse to accept that healthcare has to hurt this much. New listeners come for the truth. They stay because finally someone's saying what they've been screaming.
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Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary

Recent Episodes

Nov. 24, 2025

The Nicest Bus in Cancer: Julia Stalder

When Julia Stalder heard the words ductal carcinoma in situ, she was told she had the “best kind of breast cancer.” Which is like saying you got hit by the nicest bus. Julia’s a lawyer turned mediator who now runs DCIS Unders...
Nov. 19, 2025

Standard Deviation EP4: The Gamble

Dr. Rachel Gatlin entered neuroscience with curiosity and optimism. Then came chaos. She started her PhD at the University of Utah in March 2020—right as the world shut down. Her lab barely existed. Her advisor was on leave. ...
Nov. 17, 2025

Reenactments, Rants, and Really F*cked Up Insurance

EPISODE DESCRIPTION Before she was raising millions to preserve fertility for cancer patients, Tracy Weiss was filming reenactments in her apartment for the Maury Povich Show using her grandmother’s china. Her origin story in...

About the Host

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Matthew Zachary

Producer

Matthew Zachary invented healthcare podcasting before podcasting was a thing. In 2007, fresh off building Stupid Cancer, he grabbed a mic, launched The Stupid Cancer Show and started broadcasting patient stories on internet talk radio when everyone else was still writing blogs.

17 years and 400+ episodes later, Out of Patients is still the most unfiltered healthcare show anywhere.

Matthew doesn't do softball interviews. Brain cancer at 21 taught him that time is finite and bullshit is expensive. He gets guests to say things they'd never tell Congress. CEOs admit what's broken. Patients name what actually hurts. Scientists explain what industry doesn't want you to know. The conversations other shows won't touch because of sponsor concerns or political correctness.

What makes him different: He's been on both sides of the mic. Featured in documentaries, testified before Congress, keynoted hundreds of conferences.

But he's also been the guy puking from radiation, fighting insurance denials, and watching friends die from paperwork.

That dual perspective creates interviews you won't hear anywhere else. He knows which questions make power squirm because he's asked them from hospital beds and boardrooms both.

No pre-approved questions. No PR handlers. No seven-minute segments. Just real conversations with people brave enough to tell the truth about healthcare. After 17 years, Matthew's still the guy Mark Cuban reposts when he wants to understand what patients actually think.

Still the show where whistleblowers go first. Still asking the questions that make everyone uncomfortable.

Because comfortable conversations don't fix broken systems.